“We search for approval, we search for belonging, and we search for purpose and significance and if those things are found in anything but God, they’ll be taken away and shaken, and we’ll try to redefine ourselves in every season by the next new thing.”

In this episode we talk to Sabrina Joseph, who wrote the song (“You Reign”) that I use for the intro and outro for the podcast.  We talk about everything from leaning into pain, identity, music, her new company Roya Productions, childhood shenanigans and more!  If you’d like more of Sabrina, you can check out her blog at www.sabrinajoseph.com, follow her on Twitter, or even follow her new company on Facebook.

Books mentioned in this episode


Redeeming Love – Francine Rivers


Heaven – Randy Alcorn

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